Tuesday, August 12, 2008


As I've written before, keeping up with the bureaucracy required to live in a foreign country can be complicated and confusing. Now that our permits of stay are renewed through the mail, it's even more worrying, wondering if all the documents were acceptable, and wondering if everything arrived safely.

Luckily Italy is slowly coming into the digital age and it's now possible to check the status of renewals online. I checked after a week but found no information. I checked after two weeks and read that no irregularities had been found in our documents, and hoped that was good news. If it was just another way of saying that our documents had been received but hadn't yet been examined, then we'd still have to wait to see if anything changed. You know me, why wait to worry?!

Today, just three weeks after we mailed our renewal packets to Rome, I discovered that we have appointments for the next step! We're scheduled for September 1st, and even better, we get to go to Orvieto for the renewal! This will be six weeks after we mailed in our packets! What a relief! We were hoping that we'd be able to complete the renewal in Orvieto and not have to drive all the way to Terni. Although the drive might not be much longer, we enjoy Orvieto so much more than Terni, so we'll have a nice day out.

When we go to Orvieto for our appointment we'll have to take copies of our documents just in case they want to verify something. We'll also have to take four passport size photos, our original (ready-to-expire) permessi, and our passports. We'll also get re-fingerprinted, this time digitally, which won't be messy like the first time
, when our hands were covered with black ink.

I'm not sure if we'll receive our new permessi that day or if we'll have to wait until our fingerprints/photos are processed, but for now I'm just relieved to be one step closer to completing the process. The new permessi will be good for two years, so hopefully this will be the last time we have to go through this process! (Rumor has it the the system will change yet again, and that in the future each commune will handle their own permessi, but who knows when or if this will ever happen?)

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At 8/14/2008 05:28:00 AM , Anonymous Judith in Umbria said...

I got my appointment in the mail 2 weeks following submission-- for a date 10 months after submission and after the elapsing of my P di S. They want once more even the deed to my house as if it may have changed over the last 8 years!
Heaven help us if each comune handles its own. There are places where every single foreigner will be forever an illegal alien. Part of the pressure to get the work out of the Questura was that Perugia was so blocked up that many of them came up here and waited in the streets all night because that was easier. They wuld only make appontments for people whose doctors wrote saying they might die if they had to go the regular route. We arrived about 11 PM and the aliens themselves started a list for number taking. The numbers were then distributed at 8 AM the next morning. If you signed up and then left, they took your name off the list. I saw one young couple who didn't have a car stay on their feet all night on the sidewalk in the middle of November.
This system has been disgraceful always, and it now costs 5 times as much and is still a joke.

You two are really getting the easy end!

At 8/14/2008 06:14:00 AM , Blogger Barbara said...

We've always been thankful that San Venanzo is in the province of Terni...at least when it comes to bureaucratic matters like this!

At 8/14/2008 08:08:00 AM , Anonymous Rosemary said...

Congratulations you two! These are challenging things and you always come through with flying colors! You are great role models.
Miss you and Italy (even with all the bureaucratic hurtles!)


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